On Monday, Garrett Hao put up his insightful post on gangbangs. It’s good reading; you should check it out. With that said, he proposes that the common motivation of gangbangs to have something to do with control. More specifically, it’s about the urge to dominate over a single woman, or the woman seeking to be dominated by multiple men. Moreover, in a “reverse” gangbang, control, while less apparent, is still prevalent since it gives off the vibes of the harem.
But there’s another angle worth considering, and something I discussed with Garrett while helping him create this article. I can see it in this comment from the article:
“Women are rarely satisfied. This presents an obvious solution. Perhaps in a counterproductive manner.”
Perhaps. The idea of the insatiable woman squares well with the concept of the gangbang. In this case, the purpose of the latter is not at all about control, but satisfaction…or fun.
Enjoying Yourself
On a historical level, the concept of the woman with a high libido has been with us for aeons. Garrett’s citation of Messalina is but one of many in antiquity, though one likely built on slander from historians in the later period. Irish mythology speaks prominently of Medb, the queen who possessed many lovers in front of her husband, and who once offered herself to another Irish king and his court in exchange for a bull to settle a marital spat. (I’ve always wanted to create a porn about her.) Of course, history viewed them in a negative light for their sexuality, but that subsided in recent decades.Ever since the Sexual Revolution loosened things up, the insatiable woman as a concept became more of an acceptable fantasy. It’s something I’m always drawn to. Driven by hedonism, a woman could afford to have sex not be a wife’s duty, a matter of power dynamics, or even a means of emotional attachment. Rather, she sees sex as a fun recreational activity, and takes it to its logical conclusion. Pivoting from some of Mill’s points that Elayn outlined in their recent analysis with Garrett, her dissatisfaction comes not from the quality of the partner, but the quality of the activity itself.
With a gangbang, the insatiable woman squares the circle of enjoying herself. She has multiple partners focusing on her, pleasuring her in various ways. In turn, she indulges them with their needs. In so doing, her desires and theirs take a more base form. Despite the implicit power dynamics in play due to the numbers, her presence alone is enough to balance things out. She shares herself among them all, with the expectation that they satisfy her as well. That subverts the perception of such a scene, which is something I’m particularly fond of.
The Principle of Pleasure
Of course, all of that is very philosophical. So I’ll put it in simpler terms. What I enjoy about gangbangs isn’t the idea that a woman is being dominated in the most extreme fashion. If I were to be honest, I actually find most rough gangbang porn to be an utter turn-off. Instead, it’s the fact that the woman immerses herself in pleasure and indulges in it. There are no rules to follow, no power or control to think about consciously, no strings attached. All that matters to the woman is satiating her lust.I mean, a lot of the characters I enjoy working with most have that hedonistic tendency to them. Whether it’s Tara, or The Dude’s girls, or Dizzydills’ Sylvia, all of them are driven by indulgence to some degree. If they haven’t been in gangbangs already, I’ve probably already thought out scenarios where they enjoy the pleasure of having one.
There are limitations to this, of course. It’s uncommon for a woman to have an extremely high libido. Group sex, let alone gangbangs, is extremely awkward in reality. But that’s what porn is for: To indulge in fantasies and pleasure that are impractical if not impossible to produce in reality.
Still, what do you make of this? Are gangbangs all about control, or are they about satisfaction? Leave your thoughts in the poll and comments below. We’d like to hear from you.
max
April 9, 2017Many Thanks for the thought provoking articles,
I think it’s worth looking at a gangbang from a higher perspective to see where it sits with respect to the overall power dynamics that occur when men and women have sex. In porn they spontaneously materialize out of thin air, but if there was to be a real consensual gangbang there would need to be some kind of courtship for it to begin. Maybe the reason most women don’t fantasize about a gangbang is because they gain a ‘gangbang’ type fulfilment through other means prior to sex.
I think the underlying desires for both men and women are essentially the same, the apparent differences are only in the sequencing, i.e. women are usually one step ahead of the men. As an avid gangbang enthusiast, I asked my wife why she thinks gangbangs are more frightening than fanciful, she explained that she enjoys being desired by many men but not being penetrated by them, when she is desired she feels in control, the more people desire her, the more power she has to pick what she wants, but when it eventually comes time to freeing herself from the responsibilities of being in control, she wants to be dominated by only one man because she doesn’t want to think or worry about how another power/control dynamic will play out between 2 or more men, there might be a conflict of interests and she wouldn’t know who she should obey and keep happy.
It’s like when you don’t want to drive because you don’t want to burden yourself with the liability of steering the car, you just want to sit back, relax and enjoy the ride, but how can you relax if +2 people are sitting in the driver’s seat at the same time. Too much unpredictability can cause anxiety, what happens if there is a miscommunication between the drivers, she might be forced to intervene and make a decision for or against one of them, this clearly goes against the freedom that she was hoping to have by resigning control and also explains why most women are more open to a threesome with one extra female partner, the other woman is seen as another passenger, not another driver.
I think there is a complementary sequenced role reversal for the sexes from courtship to penetration, initially the female enjoys the ego trip of being desired and thus being in control of more than one male, but afterwards she wants to enjoy the freedom of not having any responsibilities, clearly this is more attainable if she’s being controlled by just one person (man/woman/dickgirl). For the males the overall domination balances out but in reverse order, at first they are almost helpless as they compete with each other to court the woman, but afterwards the female willingly allows herself to be owned and penetrated by a single male, but this then burdens the man with all the responsibility of satisfying her. The gangbang allows the man to ‘share’ his responsibility with other men and thus guaranteeing her fulfilment. In a gangbang the individual man has less control, but he isn’t solely responsible for satisfying the nymph either, through this type of cuckoldry he can participate in penetration with only his own satisfaction in mind, reassured that regardless of his own performance she will be fully satisfied with outcome eventually.
A real world example of how women enjoy ‘soft’ precursor gangbangs is when a model posts seductive images of herself for her legion of male Instagram followers, the men don’t mind that they are collectively sharing the joys of her seduction and despite having millions of men wishing to please her, she only has sex with one man at a time.
Of course there are many other things to take into consideration like:
A man can physically only penetrate one woman at any given moment, so a harem scenario (one man with many women) is essentially useless, this means in order to compound pleasure you need many cocks, but the problem with an orgy of many men (or tentacles) with many women is that your mind can only pay attention to any one thing at a given moment, thus the only logical way to multiply pleasure is to have a single focal point with many penetrative cocks.
the gangbang can also be viewed as a male re-enactment of the previous courtship act, she was desired by many and now she is penetrated by many, in this way a man empathizes with his competitors so that they can all win, no man has to lose when they can all penetrate her. It’s a kind of win-win collectivism.
When it comes to sex a man is clearly at a disadvantage, first he has to get selected, then he has to fulfil her desires, the reason a gangbang is a male fantasy is because it guarantees everyone complete satisfaction with the least effort, but from the point of view of the average woman a gangbang is superfluous because she was already desired by many in the previous phase and the man that she has chosen should try hard enough to satisfy her desires, otherwise she’ll just go back and select another.
It seems that we’re likely to reach a plateau with respect to visualization of sexual scenes soon, you’ve seen one triple anal gangbang you’ve seen them all, the way forward from here will probably be through storytelling and by becoming more emotionally vested in the characters, porn stars can’t act so the future is undoubtedly animated porn, not only can act out any sexual fantasy imaginable, it will include some aspects of a courtship as well, thus making porn more appealing to the female audience as well.
Thank you for you wonderful website, see you in the future
result in more women watching porn than they do now, because porn of the future will probably include more courtship than just penetration.
Animation has become almost lifelike, this means that we’re
I think our imagination will eventually grant women will and that is what women fantasize about most because there will be more about the courtship Dick girls, orgies and gangbangs through the power of imagination.
only way forward will probably of when it gets to more sexualI’m intrigued to see where our imagination and storytelling abilities will take us from here and how more women can benefit and relate to dick girls, orgies and gangbangs.
please the woman in order to selected, be picked out from a bunch
both men and women enjoy the ego trip of being in control but at the same time we also enjoy the freedom that comes with being controlled the no responsibilities
are the thought of a gangbang is frieghtening to her let alone she doesn’t even the thought of it is displeasing to her, A gangbang can’t just materialize out of thin air, there needs to be a courtship phase before the penetration phase, and if we take the courtship phase prior to the gangbang, then the male female control dynamic seems to be at a fair equilibrium
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the reason most women don’t enjoy 2 male partners simultaneously is because through the sexual act they want to dominated, but if 2 men are seeking to satify themselves simultaneously there is a possibility that a conflict of desire might occur, they might not be 100% efficient at sharing and she might be forced to make a decision for or against something,
max
April 9, 2017bugger,
everything after “see you in the future”, are random stuff that I’d written but copy/pasted it in the post by mistake.
abraham jones
April 7, 2017Your question should have options for respondents who like both equally and respondents who do not care for gang bangs however composed.