There’s some “prevailing wisdom” floating around out there that bigger is better. But in 3DX is that true? I suspect it only works up to a point, with most people finding said point far before a character’s tits are larger than the rest of her body. Not all people see it this way, though, with the trend in 3D animated porn flowing toward the “bigger is better” philosophy rather than away. I wouldn’t say it dominates the 3DX scene, but it’s prevalent. Big busts and giant cocks are expected to be in a week’s batch of new porn, even if it’s not expected from every creator, or every piece they put out. In any kind of art, there’s some expectation that an artist is simply creating what they like, and that should be respected, but with 3DX there seems to be a sort of competitive brinkmanship in creators one-upping either their peers or their own previous work. And while massive proportions on certain “assets” are certainly some people’s cups of tea, I’d argue that the median has strayed well into the “too big” region.
Defining Things
Disregarding the tiny-loving crowd (because, let’s face it, it is, well, *tiny*), imagine there are three ranges for “asset” size in 3DX.
- The first is your “vanilla porn” range. You get some bouncy Ds and DDs, some 8 or 9 inch cocks; it’s the expected fare for live-action, vanilla porn. It appeals to the majority of porn consumers.
- The second range is where I’d say that the large majority of popular 3DX porn falls. Here you’ll find Sayako, Cerene, all of The Dude’s girls, and many others whose proportions would put the average A-list porn star to shame. These proportions are “too big” for the majority of porn viewers.
- The third range is the extreme size fetishist area. These people want cocks bigger than torsos (or whatever happens to be getting fucked) and tits ranging anywhere from the size of a sofa to a full-size Sedan. To the average porn viewer this is grotesque, and to even that average A3D fan, it might be pushing the envelope.
Why have so many 3DX artists chosen the second range? Is it simply a matter of the artists’ personal tastes, or are other variables at play? Any artists want to chime in?
Boob Size and Audience Size
Whatever the motive, I contest that it’s less than advantageous planting into the center of that second range. My first point here is simply a matter of audience. Yes, artists should make art for themselves. Yes, I know you can do literally whatever you want when it comes to animated porn. But porn itself is entertainment and fantasy designed for titillation and getting off. This is purposed art, and regardless of it being more commercial or boutique or artistic, that purpose is important. If 3DX porn can’t get a person off, then it’s failed to be porn.
Which is why matching the audience is important. Trying to sell hetero porn to gay folks is a poor choice. Likewise, offering extreme fetishist porn to the vanilla crowd will disgust more than convert. Whether you’re trying to earn a profit, fans, or praise, you need to match your audience. So if a lot of plus-sized “assets” in 3DX fall next to the extreme size fetishist end of things and doesn’t make it there, that’s just sub-optimal. Niche porn sells best when it panders hard to the given niches it wants to satisfy, delivering at a high-level — and not just getting halfway to the mark.
Porn that’s beyond the “sexy comfort range” for vanilla, yet failing to reach that niche appeal, is likely to disappoint both audiences. To what degree depends on the individuals and where the porn design specifically falls on the spectrum, but its place on the spectrum only makes it worse by trying to satisfy everyone.
This is, of course, my opinion. If you adore most of that second range, you’ll probably hate any suggestion to deviate from it. But spending habits tend to get much larger on the extreme ends, and more numerous in the “typical” bands. 3DX artists looking to make a profit are playing a gambit in picking between the majority or one of two niche audiences. Which would you rather cater to?
More Inches, More Problems
Whether you agree or disagree with that, or have experienced a different financial reality as a content creator, there’s a second problem with going “too big” which does not lie: giant assets interfere with posing models.
Trying to align two gals for a kiss when they have massive boobs and have it look good? “Hard” is a gentle way of putting it. Fitting a massive cock into a fucktoy’s model and animating it to look natural enough to not seem “bad” or absurdly comical? Good luck.
Issues abound with trying to pose models and have it look sexy-cool when various “assets” get gigantic. Dickgirls have it even worse as, on top of potentially having giant versions of both, posing gets extra weird when they have cocks on top of cunts. Is receiving vaginal sex a rarity for dickgirls because it’s less desirable, or because it’s awkward as fuck to get it to look right? And those massive cocks make it hard as fuck to get that right.
High-quality animation is challenging and time-consuming to pull off all on its own — it’s vastly easier to pump out image set after image set, and doing that well isn’t an inconsequential feat, either. While there are many factors standing between us and high volumes of delicious animated 3DX, the problem only gets larger with oversized assets filling up our models, and that problem will persist even as the other factors get streamlined.
At the end of the day, I’d rather pay for higher quality porn than spend any money on mediocre quality porn, and at present it’s often easier to get there with more “average” sized models. I don’t dislike them having larger tits and ass while they’re in that spectrum, but it’s pretty common to see it dive past “better” and reach “no longer sexy, immersive or aligning well.” A mouth stretched to paper thin silliness around a massively enlarged cock, or a cock mouth-fucking into what’s clearly someone’s brain is just a boner-killer.
What’s Your Take?
On a site catering to the fans of Girlfriends 4 Ever, I understand I’m playing devil’s advocate here, and I’m likely in the vocal minority with this opinion. Is going too big a problem? Where’s your line for bigger and better?
Houston
April 12, 2019Bigger dicks, balls that hang and swing and are bigger, veinier cocks.
More grotesque cum physics.
Those few things are my suggestion, though often the dicks are big enough,
A penis size slider that’s let’s you get too big also
varietyiskey
August 2, 2018I would propose variety insted of ridiculous Size.
For example: A dick with foreskin, a micropenis, huge labia, giant clit, inverted nipples, a small glans penis, very big nipples, big areola, huge tits with tiny areola but big Nipples, Piercings, a chubby girl
The list goes on.
In my opinion there is enough variety in the pool of “natural sizes”
There is macromastia too.
Many of the mentioned features include new possibilities which are availiable IRL too, even though limited too those special cases.
Experimenting with big Nipples fucking a pussy justforfun.
or a dickgirl with a small dick and a female with a big clit grinding or trying to fuck each other.
That would be completely new and exciting to many.
I´m even such some people actually do that, its just superrare to see in porn.
Johnnie Day
July 29, 2018I have lot of great story lines and ideas contact me
Mayong
July 27, 2018I’m from China, but I don’t know where to buy or watch. You, who you help me, please send mail to [email protected]
calista241
July 27, 2018Dicks in the 2nd range, and boobs in the 3rd. Best of both worlds.
Anael
July 27, 2018Gigantic boobs are part of the animation issue, as noted~
Simi :D
July 10, 2018i like big because, i myself should be very big but i cant do it without the right woman so its a good 3dx dream 😀
Haight
July 5, 2018Always going to like the second range. Sorry you don’t…
Alan Stanwyk
July 5, 2018Bigger = better. Always. The end. (Frankly, I find small boobs…offensive and kinda gross)
Hentaibee
July 3, 2018As a huge veiny boobs fetish kind of niche player I’m probably drifting between category 2 And 3 depending on mood and model..
Wadda ya mean tits bigger than torso make no sense?
Milo
June 26, 2018I can see your point, and I actually enjoy the first range more than the second range, I like the second range but it feels more enjoyable when the absurdly hot 3DX models are actually equipped with assets that are believable rather than tits bigger than their own head. However it has been getting over-saturated in my opinion with over sized busts and I enjoy artists who use variety, such as Supro where they are big but their bodies are different, and each model has specific characteristics and personality.
lych
June 25, 2018what is your software m4 to make this, pls tell me
rtpoe
June 23, 2018I agree with you, for the technical reasons you mentioned. Sure, I get off on breasts measured in feet instead of inches, but when you’re striving for more and more realism with things like skin texture and hair, breasts of absurd size really break the illusion.
There’s plenty of traditional artists out there who can go huge (Zdemian is one who comes immediately to mind) for my fantasy fodder. But with their work, it’s kind of hard to imagine the sensation of brushing the woman’s hair away from her face so I can lean in for a passionate kiss.
And it’s not like I can’t save that image of Sayako and with minimal editing double the size of her cock…..
Kurtiz
June 22, 2018whatever works, baby, whatever works
Cub38
June 22, 2018Smaller dicks bigger boobs for sure. But good looking boobs not giant balloon ones. If you’re thinking porn stars, then something like Laura Lion, Ava Addams. Not Lisa Ann, not Danielle Derrek. And smaller dicks please. Who needs those giant ridiculous shlongs that don’t even physically fit in the throats of the characters you’re drawing anyway… To me though the main issue with 3D porn is those futanaris. Futanari on a regular girl why not, a futanari being dominated by women would be great, but those futanaris raping women are just a turn off. As a man I’d rather see one man being in a harem scene, which I’ve NEVER seen in 3D porn… You’ve done a great character with Cerene, but never used her as what she is : bloodlust. Where is the bloodlust ? Shouldn’t she be sucking men dry ? Cloning herself to just dominate the male hero ? Instead you’re doing here a mildly pretentious but harmless woman. She’s beautifully drawn I wished she were more intense.
Anael
June 22, 2018I always did wonder where the vamp murder went. But, as it turns out, murder-porn is one of those highly niche categories.
jack pinder
June 22, 2018Enjoy all these points of view. And yes it is about fantasy but the belief it could be real in it’s own world grounds it to my acceptability.
IBT
June 22, 2018There’s a fungible line when it comes to the question of “how much is too much?” for these things, but the way I prefer to think of it is that it’s perfectly fine to FLIRT with the “larger than life” possibilities so long as you don’t jump off the cliff into the realm of sheer impossibility. It’s a delicate balance of trying to maintain the Suspension Of Disbelief in a way that serves the Fantasy by keeping at least a pretense of grounding in Reality.
That way you can push the boundaries of what is “real” without losing sight of the “reality” of what’s going on.
It’s kind of like how the best lies have at least some truth to them, while the lousy/rotten lies are the ones that are just pure fiction with no truth to them at all.
In that respect, I have a preference for my fantasies (including the 3Dx ones) to at least be PLAUSIBLE on some level. That fundamental plausibility is my “in” to being turned on by what I’m looking at (and listening to). When that plausibility is undercut, the fantasy crashes and the arousal dumps in ways that aren’t fun. When that undermining of plausibility can be interpreted as the creator insulting my intelligence (basically) … that becomes a suspension bridge of disbelief too far, and the whole thing crumbles under its own weight of sheer implausibility.
Again, to be clear, what is “plausible” can vary between artists and art styles, so there’s some fungibility there, but if the artist isn’t even making a token effort in the direction of plausibility then I essentially have no respect for their work because they aren’t respecting my perspective on their work.
Pathetic
June 22, 2018Breast size? The ones in the top pic are great. Not too big for me at all. Too much larger though and they might be.
Penis size? The one in G4E was great. The one in the lasted version from miro looks fine as well (width and length). But once the penis (when fully inserted) is clearly behind the woman’s chest or obviously wider then the area between the woman’s legs…that is too far/too big for me.
For me, there has to be a remote chance of some realism…no matter how unlikely in real life. But once it looks nothing but cartoonish (no matter how good the render quality is), the turn-on is gone for me.
This is fantasy. Impossibly beautiful/well endowed women having sexual relations with impossibly well-endowed males/monsters.
Anael
June 22, 2018The whole ‘internal organs getting blasted by a dick’ thing is definitely a turn-off.
But a lot of people argue voraciously for fantasy, so it’s clearly popular to a good many, too.
Bones12x2
June 22, 2018I’ve always thought one thing that a lot of 3DX artists miss out on is using extreme elements on purpose to meet halfway with realism to create an interesting dynamic that kind of tells a visual story about the interaction.
For example say there is a scene with a girl that is very full figured a little beyond the limits of reality but no crazy….then we have a monster that has a 20 inch dick with some decent girth but not way beyond reality. In real life, few women would be able to even take half of his dick especially not hard and fast for a long time. So the dilemma of 3DX is we want to go beyond reality…but how far. A lot of artists just don’t bother or they do go to far…they have the monster stuff all 20 inches balls deep and it looks dumb.
But I do want to see them fuck. So what I wish more artists would do is say…okay, we know that about 8-10 inches is pretty huge for real life…but this isn’t real and this girl is physically beyond reality as well. So we can assume that she can take a girthy 10-12 inches without too much trouble, and take it hard. Also, sure 20″ is crazy for a dick compared to real life, but this is a monster and a big scary one…so sure, lets’ give him a monsters cock. Then we will meet in the middle.
Then make scene where the monster fucks her and stuffs about 14-15 inches deep in her pussy. He would like to shove all 20 in but she physically can’t take any more. I think that is super sexy and something we can only get in 3DX if done right. What we get is a girl being fucked at her absolute limit, every time the monster penetrates her, he is filling every millimeter of her and we know that because if her could put in more…he would. So without any words, it tells this super hot story visually. The girl is being being fucked as well as she can possible be fucked so she looks hot and is beyond satisfied….but then we also get the appeal of the physically dominant monster still still thoroughly enjoying a super tight pussy that he may not be balls deep but its still hot for us as the viewer to see her take so much dick.
So it’s still going to an extreme and satisfying a fantasy but actually allows the extremes to create a stretched bond with reality so it never becomes stupid or ruins the appeal. I wish more artists would understand the significance of that balance.
Anael
June 24, 2018I’d enjoy seeing more of that, aye. ‘Here’s this improbable situation… now how do we make it pseudo-realistic?’ Bravo!
IBT
June 25, 2018Improbable is fine.
Flagrantly impossible is not.
The former is unlikely, but still within reach of the realm of possibility. The latter has wandered so far away from being real/possible that believing in what’s happening (and why) requires you to ignore the fact that your intelligence is being insulted.
Depending on the art style, and the expectations of the audience (as well as their tastes and preferences), the distinction between improbable and impossible can be somewhat fungible and fuzzy. The funny thing is that at this point, pretty much (almost) ALL of live action porn that gets filmed falls into the “improbable” category, and a LOT of 3Dx porn likewise falls into the “improbable” category as well. The difference is that it’s easier to slide over into the outright “impossible” with 3Dx than it is with live action.
Brunetti
June 22, 2018Thank you for this article. If the question “what size makes sense” is reduced to the fact “what can the holes take at maximum stretch” all meanings of eroticism and sexuality are lost.
Just not to be misunderstood: i don’t speak of creating only bodies like Bilitis, but 3dfx will sadly loose the relation to arts, if all mayor players extends the sizes to laughable adolescent dimensions.
Kingsizednuts
June 22, 2018I dont see why tots are comparable to cock. Tits in my eyes are just comparable to a muscle, and should be more about body symmetry. Thus I feel many tits are too big. Tara’s tits are fine, and Hitman’s girls tits are also just right.
Cocks on the other hand is like IBT says, it depends on how much the girl can deep theoat without it looking silly. The vagina is not often a limiting factor, but I may agree that sometimes it would look more anatomically good if the pussy was just removed and the dickgirl just received it anally….
Bones12x2
June 21, 2018This is a very good topic.
To me it’s relatively simple.
3DX is all about fantasy….but porn to begin with is already based around fantasy. So by default, 3DX needs to go at a bare minimum. one or two steps further away from realism than “real” porn to even justify its existence in most cases. …it’s fantasy for people already in a fantasy world.
That “extra fantasy” manifests in several ways other than simply body proportion. Futa is probably the most obvious definition of that…..I personally don’t like it as I think seeing a gorgeous woman with a dick is terrible. Generally I don’t even consider spending money an anything Futa…but the fact that on a few rare occasions, not only am I interested in certain creations, but I thoroughly enjoy them is a testament to the talent of the artists but also the pure level of fantasy involved in the medium.
Monsters, Demons, and Aliens fucking human women in 3DX is another example of how the genre looks for ways to produce fantasies that can’t exist even within the fantasy world of Porn. That is my favorite part of the genre…but I honestly don’t even know why. Yet, I very much dislike bestiality or most things that are too close to it….so why am I intrigued by an Orc, Warewolf, or weird alien creature… it’s strange.
Also, the general design of most of the girls is just further driving the fantasy…. perfect skin, perfect hair, perfectly hairless bodies, tight little pussies, beautiful faces and eyes, perfect teeth, perfect body shape, long legs, thick asses, plump lips, huge firm tits…and of course they all love swallowing cum or being creampied.
For many creators, that basically just describes the entry level requirements for a female character to be in the artwork or for a fan to care about looking at it….which is fine….I’m not complaining, that’s why I enjoy it. But it does show that if you took the most “fuckable” woman alive in real life, she would just be average in the world of 3DX.
So it’s natural that in this world completely filled with characters hand crafted for the sole purpose of fulfilling sexual fantasy…that they are going to posh the boundaries…then push them again…and again. Also, the ability to create characters that are more than ideal compared to real life means that certain proportions and body shapes actually work well in 3DX where they would not in real life. Sayako’s breasts look great imo….but in real life…they would be too big for pretty much anyone.
The fact that these characters are crafted beyond reality also explains why penis size is expected to be much bigger. If you have all these women with insane figures that can somehow actually pull off huge tits and tiny waists without looking bad…..then it stands to reason that their partner needs to match. An 8 inch dick is large in real life…but for these larger than life females….that’s nothing…they genuinely need to be fucked by an unrealistically large cock in order for it to come across as though they can even be satisfied….which is rarely the goal, usually the objective is to make it seem as though she is being fucked to her limits or beyond…so it’s going to take a hell of a dick to do that.
With all of that said….proportion will never not matter and there is always such a thing as “too big”. That goes with everything…TV’s, Wheels on cars, Tits, Dicks, so on and so on…..Unfortunately there are enough people that think 30″ wheels on a car is cool…so there is a market for it…same thing with 3DX. Personally I think there are quite a few artists that are very skilled….but don’t have the best taste. That is usually exhibited with characters that go way too far with size and behavior to the point where not only is it not sexy…it’s actually either gross or dumb and a complete waste of time imo….but as I said, there will always be that market for those that basically enjoy having bad taste. I mean…there are fetishes of dudes that like to have sex with 300+lb women. So the extremes will always exist.
Ultimately…the reason why so many artists live in the “2nd Range” that is well into the fantasy world and beyond reality but stopping before it becomes extreme is because it just flat out makes sense and for most people…that’s the whole point in 3DX and that’s what most fans want. The reason is that we don’t want realistic…we don’t want what actual porn can give us…we want more…we want the dream to come to life…the fantasy that only works as a fantasy to become real. We want to see that woman with the perfect face and body and huge tits that doesn’t exist in real life and we want to see her pounded to multiple orgasms and swallow a massive load of cum from a demon with an 18 inch cock that can fuck for hours non-stop …because its a fantasy but still just beyond the extremes of reality, as though we know we can’t reach it, but we still want to. It’s something that can’t really exist but has all the very best elements of what can exist…just turned up to 11..or 12 and all in one package. If you turn it up to 15…then we can’t even relate and it’s not even fantasy, it’s just absurdity. If I could have a 15 inch dick, and fuck a girl with the worlds most perfect body and she could take it….that would be crazy, but maybe awesome….on the other hand, if I had a 25 inch dick and a girl with tits the size of actual beach balls…that would be terrible.
calista241
June 21, 2018Bigger tits = better. I wouldn’t mind to see Miro, Supro or everyone else do some renders of some Ricky Java sized assets.
IBT
June 21, 2018“A mouth stretched to paper thin silliness around a massively enlarged cock, or a cock mouth-fucking into what’s clearly someone’s brain is just a boner-killer.”
Oh man, I’ve had to complain about this kind of nonsense on occasion. It’s why when miro was asking how thick he should make Cerene’s cock I told him that the upper limit was going to be determined by the holes (plural) that cock was going to have to be inserted into. Since I didn’t have access to miro’s avatar model data, I couldn’t determine “how big was too big” for Cerene myself, but when miro did the requisite testing, he found that Sophia’s MOUTH was the most limiting factor, rather than the holes between her legs. And that’s because, beyond a certain diameter, you just have to remove the teeth and break the jaw in order to fit the cock into that mouth hole … and at that point, it’s just not sexy anymore.
Anael
June 22, 2018Yeah, my first example pictures for this article depicting that paper-thin stretching were rejected. Even the one that got posted is on the unsexy side, for me.
Tylarth
June 21, 2018The further from human norms a body morph is, specifically tits and cock (but also waist and head) sizes the more unfeasible and ultimately un-erotic the pornography is. For this reason i don’t purchase silly size 3dx, it may be exquisitely created to high production quality, but the excessive dimensions involve make the work a piece of wierd erotic excess not porn i want to buy, because it is so distanced from human experience.
To give example, earlier Miro works and the early versions of Sayako interacting with Ayako were more appealing than later version of Sayako, but voiced animation added a new compelling factor. However the recent increase to sizes in Bloodlust series is less appealing to the extent that the series fails to sufficiently interest me. Specifically due to the disproportionate balance is sizes and how they cannot feasibly be sucked or fucked in any genuinely pleasurable way. This is not criticism of talent, that has been evidently improved, it is criticism of choice in dimensions to the detriment of pornographic value.
So for me bigger (and smaller) is not better, especially for hyper realistic 3dx, if an artist however delves in to more cartoon styles, such as hentai or like say Smerinka’s works then it is more acceptable as the aritstry has that divorce from reality and rationale of size fetishism for effect and story impact.
Mang
June 21, 2018I’d say your most insightful point is that dipping your toes into one category as opposed to embodying it properly is a bad move.
Most people would be let down by say an 10 inch dong in 3dx. It seems like a strange half measure between two choices. And likewise most people would find a thigh thick 27 inch dong to be odd, as the full on macro fetishists want it bigger, yet it is already impossible to use for normal sexual positions in a psuedo-realistic artistic world.
However, the idea that “most people” want 8-9 inch dongs in their porn because that is the normal range of “big”, or further that the trend holds for 3dx is ludicrous.
Big cock porn is incredibly popular, and generally the bigger the cock is the bigger the popularity. Even to the point that there was (albeit comical) giant fake dicked pornography made that was famously popular for a long time. Nearly every shot, every photo, every angle, and half of all dialogue in all pornography ever made is centered towards making assets look bigger and talking about how big they are. If normal porn could make the dicks 15 inches they would in a heartbeat.
This trend/expectation/want is amplified further in 3DX. Hence the existence of the phenomena you take note of here, and then amplified all over again when futanari are present
As for the struggles of making the porn with large assets, and the limit of where these assets lie, these questions answer themselves. The limit is wherever the artists style can take them as far as making actually sexually appetizing work that uses the size they want. The fans will let the artist know if they’ve broken the limit, and if the characters and models are realistic looking enough than these limits will be become glaringly visible while attempting animation.
As for why choosing the larger size is right in the first place, well there is literally everything I just said, these trends exist for a reason. But further, there really isn’t a point to making 3DX that shies away from the surreal or the excessive. That is the realm of normal pornography, and even in that realm they thrash and wail and struggle to be free from it.
3DX lets porn be better, and one way it becomes better by allowing for representations of sex with assets in the second range.
Anael
June 21, 2018I’d be very curious to see how many 3DX subscribers are specifically looking for ‘surreal’ and ‘excessive’ in their porn. Particularly since I doubt many of them would describe dickgirls as ‘surreal’.
Mang
June 22, 2018Regardless of the prevalence of either term in their vernacular they are both quite obviously accurate to the representations that are most popular among fans. 3DX got its first legs being swamped with big masculine monsters fucking hyper feminine women so it would seem this is both historically and by your own assessment, currently the case.
There really isn’t a place for the mundane in 3DX, it is strictly a waste of the medium.
Anael
June 22, 2018Not focusing on the diction of ‘surreal’, but the psychology behind it. Surreal has a lot of implications, and isn’t used in regards to any common category or style of porn, whereas Fantasy is. People gravitate toward ‘grounded fantasy’ overwhelmingly in their porn consumption; the ‘extreme fantasy’ is much more niche.
“There really isn’t a place for the mundane in 3DX, it is strictly a waste of the medium.” This just spins us in the ‘your vanilla is my extreme’ circles. I have plenty of fetishes others would squick at, but I find a lot of the common giant-sizing uninteresting, which is clearly not the most common response to it.
Fantasy can be as simple as one body type matched with another voice type that you’ve NEVER seen in porn before. And 3DX can achieve that well. Would you call that mundane? Probably. But a bunch of people would drool all over it just the same. So there is no baseline of mundane in that sense, which is why I focused on spending and viewing habits of sub-populations at large.
A lot more data would be required to make more definitive analyses, of course, but I disagree with the general notion that ‘normal porn viewers don’t want 3DX, and 3DX porn viewers don’t want normal porn’. Not only is it incorrect, but it’s a self-reinforcing belief, which prevents objective consideration from anyone who buys into it.
The Dude
June 21, 2018So this is an interesting article to me. Also, nice feature of Marcella getting groped by Tatiana in the post banner 😀
For me, the tit size on my girls, as well as the cock size, happens for a number of reasons. First off, because I do think bigger is better up to a certain point, but that’s actually mostly for aesthetic reasons. Secondly… aesthetic reasons. So really the first and second reason kinda conflate into one. Turns out that as I write this I’m discovering that I might just have one reason for going big: looks.
Not looks as in “oh my god I love looking at big tits.” I don’t necessarily. Big natural breasts don’t do much for me because there’s too much droop. In real life, I’d much rather a girl have a modest B-cup than something DD+ if her breasts aren’t fake. But if they are fake, most breasts don’t survive the surgery so well. Take a look at porn: how many botched titjobs are there? Amy Anderssen has tits the size of 3DX renders, but her nipples are all cross-eyed, and the skin tension and the way her breasts just stand up on her body manages to put me off.
Rikki Six has smaller breasts, but still fake. I’d argue that her shape is perfect. Or rather, used to be perfect around like 2012ish when she filmed most her scenes. I don’t really know what she looks like today. They’re perfectly perky, perfectly round. They have a very balanced look. So in an ideal world? Amy Anderssen size, Rikki Six shape.
So when I started making 3DX I began to approximate that look, but more at the Rikki than the Amy side of the size spectrum. What I actually noticed in later production is that upon loading my girls into a scene, I would actually increase their breast size slightly before posing them. And then some more. And then some more beyond that.
The end result was that the girl with the biggest tits in my lineup, Marcella, is currently only the biggest by visual suggestion. For bust size, Mari and Kayla and Tatiana can all match her. Breanna is getting up there too. And I only realised this throughout the last week while I was taking the girls’ measurements for some new content I’m working on. Meaning that, in my head, Mari and Breanna were still modest-breasted girls. They never were, of course. If anyone must know, Mari is a K cup and Breanna is a G cup. Like… how often does that happen in real life?
But the balance of their bodies makes sense to me. I design their butts as a sort of counterweight to their breasts, and with a pair of long legs and oversized heels beneath them, I think it just works. They appear to me as smaller-breasted than they really are.
Cock size is another interesting point. In real life a 10 inch cock is massive. In 3DX, a 10 inch cock is small. Is that because we’re all size fetishists? Well, in part. But there’s another good reason: cocks are made to look even more massive in closeup, but in 3D work the rule is that closeups can ruin suspension of disbelief if there’s an ugly texture seam somewhere, or weird displacement behaviour, or things like that. I mean I do a lot of closeups in my sets, but as a rule if I can’t make it work closeup I go wideshot, whereas a live action director might chose not to do the shot at all. Why? Because even a ten inch cock isn’t that visually exciting when compared to the size of an entire human body. Especially in a scene with three or more people in it, it’s far more arousing to me to see a cock that leaves enough room for multiple sets of tits and hands to interact with.
Also, I think for dickgirls it just makes sense of the tip of the cock can reach the sternum while standing upright. There’s something balanced about that, too. You can’t have massive tits and then a dick that falls away in comparison.
So that’s my two cents. Interesting post. I sometimes get the feedback that people would like me to downsize, and I actually do have the intention of designing some more modestly shaped girls, but overall I think 3DX is just a medium where the frequency of wideshots makes big things come out better than small things.
Anael
June 21, 2018Love the input on how closeup vs wide angle affects visual sizing. That’s an important point I actually forgot, embarrassingly.
I think there’s also a perverse effect going on here – there’s a lot of interesting closeups that could happen theoretically, but are harder to pull off in a pretty / sexy fashion in 3DX. By switching to wide shot and making the assets larger, it then becomes harder to make it look right close-up… and the difficulty spirals there.
Aesthetics probably always will be the crux of it, and that’s fine. Finding the optimized ‘nexus’ points of content creation, where the most possible people get the highest possible ‘oh yeah!’, is something I’ve thought about over the years, leading in part to this article. There are so many tastes, so you can’t appeal to everyone at once… but there are definite trends of appreciation in sub-populations, and some are far more popular than others.
The Dude
June 21, 2018Well it literally is impossible to please everyone, and of the different things I’ve tried some have been more succesful than others. But one thing I’ve never heard, or so rarely that I can’t recall the last instance, is people telling me they’d like the cocks to me smaller. My RL friends all tell me that they think the tits are too big though, but they also all have a very vanilla taste in women that doesn’t leave much room for the fantastic (out of a social circle of 10+ guys I’m the only one who’s ok with properly done breast implants, for instance).
There’s almost no overlap in my experience between the vanilla crowd and the 3DX crowd. I think that’s because 3DX viewers already have their minds open to erotic scenarios that don’t correspond with reality. But if reality’s what you’re after, then yeah, the least real genre of porn is not going to be your thing. So in 3DX even though tastes wildly differ there seems to be at least an appreciation for fantastical elements like huge tits and dicks. I think we all understand the potential for 3DX to deliver us the ideal type of picture of a female body. That’s what we’re all after. Exaggerated elements are likely to be a part of that.
Marie Fasolt
June 23, 2018“There’s almost no overlap in my experience between the vanilla crowd and the 3DX crowd.”
I could badger you about this on Skype but I want to write it here for discussion purposes: this isn’t true in the slightest. =P First off, we have more than a few regulars requesting more vanilla content on A3D, and I’ve seen similar statements made elsewhere around the web. But even aside from that… SFM stuff counts as 3DX, and a lot of it is vanilla. A lot of it also outperforms our most popular content on sites like pornhub. If you poke around at search terms on google trends too, more people are looking for SFM stuff than they’re looking for specific titles we sell here at A3D. So there is a large vanilla 3DX market out there to be tapped into, we just need to let them know we exist.
Jet
June 26, 2018Marie is right. I am part of the vanilla crowd and I love vanilla 3DX. I bought Bloodlust and it was awesome, totally worth the money. But at the moment Affect3d doesn’t offer content on the same level as SFM on a regular basis for me. And there is also 3dx porn games like Skyrim modded and Honeyselect but they aren’t user friendly to setup.
I believe the vanilla crowd is willing to spend money just has much as the DG crowd. Ellowas as SFM animator was making $2000 a month on patreon even though all his work was free.
Is there plans to branch out more to the vanilla crowd? Maybe make another website for vanilla crowd since they don’t seem to get along with the DG crowd?
Marie Fasolt
June 24, 2018Replying to IBT:
Yeah. and I understand the sentiment of diehard dickgirl fans wanting A3D to only make content for them. And I get it… Fans of this genre are still underserved by the larger industry, so I understand them not wanting to share. The problem is even if dickgirl fans are high quality fans — as in they are actually willing to pay for stuff we make — there still aren’t enough of them to put us in a situation where we can just freely throw money at our productions to make our team bigger, better, and faster.
IBT
June 23, 2018You also have to deal with an audience that is not inclined to “share” the necessary resources for productions that do not cater to “their” fetish(es) specifically. We’ve already seen plenty of that with the “don’t waste time on anything but DG content” crowd here at A3D.
Anael
June 22, 2018Right. And different pieces can be highly popular for different reasons, and most people don’t actually leave any feedback, let alone good feedback, so it can be difficult to make any solid judgments based off of the vocal input one’s received.
There’s a lot in those two paragraphs I could discuss at length, but I’ll stick with this: vanilla porn viewers still watch a lot of porn that doesn’t correspond to their personal reality, whether it’s cock or tit sizes, age range, skin color, or situation. Porn in this way is both entertainment and fantasy right from the get-go, no matter how extreme or vanilla the viewer.
The ability to appreciate erotic cartoons, essentially, does separate 3DX fans from non-3DX fans, but it doesn’t automatically separate them as much, or in as many ways, as a lot of people seem to believe. There’s also the case of exposure; a lot of people have simply never heard of 3DX (I was unaware of it for many years of its lifetime), and could appreciate it given the exposure. As we see VR porn become a real thing ™, more and more people are going to get exposed to 3DX porn – and I think we’ll find that a lot of ‘vanilla viewers’ will actually really enjoy it.
That doesn’t necessarily mean we’ll have people of all sorts suddenly raving about dickgirls, but the medium can have plenty of appeal to the vanilla crowd.
Anyway, content creators always get to decide who they’re making porn for, and who they might want to get paid by. I just want the conversations about the spending trends and popularity of different design elements to be more backed by data and deeper consideration of the various elements driving porn consumption than I’ve seen thus far.
Pipe dream, I know. 😉